Hi Molly ~~
I have no fewer than eight fire signs in my chart yet people always term me as calm, easy-going, and sweet. Why am I not a more “fire-y” person?
~~Shari
To provide some background, the three fire signs are Aries, Leo and Sagittarius. When Shari was born, the Sun, Moon and five other planets were traveling through fire signs.
I’m going to call in an expert here to tell us why you’re not bouncing off the walls. Betty Lundsted, in her book Astrological Insights into Personality, explains:
“People with five or more Fire planets are usually quite shy. The old textbooks say these people should be very fiery and attention seeking— but lots of Fire seems to express in the opposite way. Those with lots of Fire are open and joyous and idealistic with people they know well, but they are rather shy in unfamiliar circumstances and around strangers or people they don’t know.”
Think back to campfires you’ve witnessed in your life. Once you get a really good fire going, the bright sparky flames go out. The real heat comes from the smoldering, red-hot coals. This is what really fiery people are like. Intensely passionate, idealistic, and spiritual.
Fire signs are also very self-aware. Especially Aries and Leo. Self-awareness easily becomes self-consciousness, which is another reason why people with lots of fire in their skies are often extremely shy.


Molly Cliborne

1 · Louise · 28 May 2005
hi MollyMy son has 5 planets in Sag plus a Sag rising! He was diagnosed with ADHD when he was younger and then i started getting into astrology and realised it wasn't ADHD but a true blue fire sign!!
He does bounce of the walls occasionally but can also be quite shy!! He also 'sees' a lot of things happening before they do!
2 · Shaon · 26 June 2005
hey louise, are you sure your child is not what is termed as an “indigo child”? The ADHD and the precognitive ESP (‘sees' a lot of things happening before they do)seem to classify him as one. They say all the leaders of the new age are indigos..3 · orange · 18 July 2005
hello, very informative site4 · janet · 4 August 2005
Hi Molly & friendsI just love the analogy of the red hot coals for my fire planets. At a medicine wheel ceremony, I was given the name LITTLE SMOKE denoting big fire but creating very little smoke.
p.s. I thought my 3 personal planets in Virgo made me shy but I can now see the self awarenes of 4 fire planets aries/leo. Thanks for the insight.
5 · Sasikala Thiagaraja · 27 September 2005
Hi Molly,I am new to this site. Wondering how is it like for Librans in the coming months. Is it safe to switch jobs now or should we wait for better time. When is good time for Librans especially in wealth and career.
Sasikala
6 · Molly · 28 September 2005
Sasikala, please see my October forecast.7 · Gagandeep · 8 October 2005
Hi everyone here...ive been crawling through the web for people with five or more fire sign planets.I personally do have five planets in LEO sign in the natal chart.For those who have been claiming that they are the next generational world leaders in different fields, I feel ive not found many leaders yet while searching on the web with similart traits except than the great Indian mystic and spiritual leader OSHO. He's been known worldwide for his anti tradition tirade against world's major religions.Personally I did have ADD, ESP and insomnia while I was graduating.It seems thats been attributed to the fire sign majority. rest Im unaware!!!
This is a good informative site.....so keep pouring your comments on these issues...
8 · Gagandeep · 9 October 2005
Hi Molly...Do you have any account of any famous leader with five fire sign planets...
Ive seen only one person so far...thats been OSHO...(Acharya Rajneesh in his earlier days)... from India...he'd five planets in Sagi sign...he was famous worldwide for his free love concept for salvation...
you can see his natal chart on...http://www.dirah.org/osho.htm.....i wish someone could pour comments on any more famous people worldwide...with similar traits...
9 · Molly · 9 October 2005
Gagandeep,I know Osho. He is famous here, not only for starting a religious movement, but for moving thousands of his followers into a tiny town in Oregon, violating many laws and displacing many residents.
Osho has many fire planets in his sidereal (Vedic) chart, not his tropical (western) chart. They are two different systems of astrology. In his western chart, there is a large grouping of planets in Capricorn.
I cannot comment on his sidereal chart, as I am not familiar with Vedic astrology. This site deals with tropical (western) astrology. I do not advise using Western methods of interpretation on a Vedic chart. They are two completely different systems of reading charts. You would be better served by information from Vedic astrology websites.
Best,
Molly
10 · Gagandeep · 10 October 2005
Thanks Molly for your enlightening answer...11 · Maike · 18 January 2006
hi,
I have a concern. I don't have any fire signs in my chart. I have three water, four wind, and three earth signs what does it mean if I don't have any fire signs?
12 · pippa · 3 March 2006
hi i was wondering, how do you know if your an indigo child by your chart wheel.
thanks
13 · Molly · 3 March 2006
Hi Pippa,
I’m not the one to ask. I’m not into the whole “indigo child” thing. All children have their gifts and I’m not one to put a label on them.
14 · gypsy · 7 August 2006
Wow , Molly. I’m very impressed with your site, been reading Saturn in Leo and makes alot of sense. But this is the first time I’ve seen anyone say that alot of fire signs makes you shy. Thank you, it describes me perfectly and I always thought that it was weird that I had 5 planets in Leo and yet shy and spiritual. People would say you don’t seem like a Leo cause I’m not very outgoing and fiery. Very interesting,thanks for finally making me understand why that is.
15 · Dan Cinnamon · 9 August 2006
I have 5 signs in fire and it is very strange about that whole indigo child being able to see things before they happen. Sun and mercury in aries. Jupiter, uranus, and neptune in sagitarius. I am going to lead through music the only way to change the world is rock and roll.
Unknown to any soul the sun will rise one day with out us. Nuclear annihilation, fossil fuels, importation or perhaps a celebration when it all falls down. Where are we in the scope of things f—-ing ants that fight under kings die for a god you cant even see. I believe in what tomorrow brings a revolution in full swing cannot see for the trees. Do what you are told all that money owed are we losing our souls. I see eyes that lie I feel the light inside burning bright every single day.
16 · starlight · 6 September 2006
hey dan, check out a song by faithless called reverence. when he says ‘thou shal have no other god but me’ – its the whole subjectivity – god is your concience vibe. – the human race needs to be free, but free from fear and self hatred of itself X
17 · richa · 3 January 2007
hey how do u know how many “fire signs” u have in ur chart and all that stuff?
18 · (Uncle) Hannah Celeste Slattery-Quintanilla · 3 January 2007
Heya Richa…
There’s a site astro.com where you can put in your birth information and it’ll show you your chart placements. There are other places on the net which you can also get a free chart.
Here are a few:
astro.com
alabe.com
http://janspiller.com/personalcharts.php
Your Uncle,
Hannah
19 · Gabe · 20 October 2007
I also have 5 fire signs in my chart, my moon and mercury are in Aries and Neptune, Uranus and Saturn are all in Sag, and I’m a sag rising, i was wondering if theres a correlation with so many fire signs and indigo people, I’m not saying I’m psychic or can foretell the future (I’ve had a few dreams that turn out to be deja vus…if that counts) and i am aware of the new age of Aquarius and was wondering what type of people do you see as leading the movement forward and what type of peple do you see as being resistant and clinging to Piscean values
20 · cristina lopez · 1 December 2007
I was just wondering, Does it mean anything how the lines in your birth chart are set up?
I’ve looked at alot of my friend’s birthcharts and they tend to have most of their placements off to one side or another, yet mine is completely covering the entire wheel.
just wondering.
21 · mary w · 11 December 2007
Molly,
I can’t believe I’ve lived this long without ever hearing that fire people could be shy. I have 6 planets in Leo in the 10th house, with Sun and Uranus conjunct midheaven, and Scorpio rising. All of my life I have struggled with my shyness. The astrologers that I have had readings with just couldn’t believe or wouldn’t accept that I could be shy, saying it just isn’t indicated anywhere in my chart. Apparently, I should be onstage and outgoing. The bottom line is – Thank you for having some insight into the Fire Dominant personality. WE ARE SHY. (In fact, capitalizing that sentence is the most outgoing thing I have done in a long time) I have also been ADD (without the H).
Next-
Saturn has finally left the sign of Leo and it has been a tough couple of years for me. I am interested in knowing if you have experience with anyone who has alot of planets in Leo, and what kinds of things they might have noticed or experienced with Saturn transiting thru Leo. Is there relief ahead?
peace
22 · Molly · 11 December 2007
Hi Mary— I know! It isn’t that the fire isn’t there, it just isn’t the “sparky” kind that tends to get all the press. But the fire dominance does show up in a spiritual and idealistic personality, and very sensitive ego.
Saturn has left Leo, but Neptune is still in Aquarius, opposing Leo and giving Leo natives all kinds of those lovely “learning experiences.” Read up on Neptune transits and I think you’ll have all kinds of insights into what has been going on.
23 · Ramon · 26 March 2008
Hi Molly, congrats for your great website and all these valuable informations.
This is something new to me too, i have 5 planets in sag and the rising sign also.
And i wondered why having all this fire i was very shy, especially at childhood. I was blaming the 12th house, where i have moon, saturn, venus and mercury(Sco) conjunct.
24 · SanDeE · 14 April 2008
Thanks Molly,
That’s so interesting. I have 6 fire signs, sun/moon/mercury in Leo, Sag rising and Jupiter and Neptune in Sag. and I’ve had to work so hard to overcome shyness. People always say, “you’re a Leo? You don’t act like a Leo!”
25 · Molly · 18 April 2008
Yeah, I know. It wasn’t until I read Lundsted that I really understood why I wasn’t more “typically” Aries. I have Sun in Aries and Moon in Leo. And I’m self-conscious as all get-out.
Although I find that most Aries are not textbook Aries. Most of the books make us out to be a bunch of Yosemite Sams.
26 · yinyang · 29 May 2008
are you closer to cancer perhaps? perhaps closer to virgo? the other fire signs perhaps closer to scorpio or capricon?
27 · bopp1296 · 29 September 2008
My daughter has sun, moon, mercury, mars & saturn in Aries with Leo rising and I expected her to be a live wire and she’s very much the opposite. Her other signs are in Sag and Aquarius with nothing in water or earth. I wonder how she will make that up, maybe in a partner.
28 · Dennis · 1 October 2008
Yes. It is interesting how too many fire sign end up being shi, and if you have too much water, you end up reacting to everything. If you saw a water domanated person and a fire domanated person side by side, you may think each was the other.
29 · A C · 5 October 2008
Hi! i am also having 6 planets in 10th house Leo and total 8 in kendra with Ascendent Scorpio.
I have faced lots of struggle in my life ,i lost my father in the age of 22,and undergone major operation 3 times, currently my age is 28 years old but i am having really senior position and solid networking, i have alway’s helpful in supporting and managing jobs for my known, i think it’s because of heavy presence of planets in 10th house.I just want to know if in future i am having any inclintion towards Sanyas and all,as i feel i have seen everything in my life and nothing is left to gain except selg awareness….plz suggest.
Regards,
XYZ
30 · lexy · 29 May 2009
molly,
iam a cancer lunar piscian with 4 plants in water, 2 of them being my moon and sun, and i have neptune in my 1 house,and a lot of neptune aspects, and no plants in fire. does this mean iam weak or strong emotionally,and do you have any suggestion on how i can use other aspects of my chart to reverse the negative effects of my water logged natal chart such as the senstivity ,lazyness(lack of self motivation),& emotional out bursts. and also this web site is more than just a place for astrological info. before i found this web site i never believed in astrology,so thank you for showing me the true, sense then i’ve understood myself better,and learned to except my chemical inbalances because now i know why, so thank you for the closure, your more then just a astrologer, your a giver of truth and understanding.i’m a cancerian lunar piscian,and now i know why i feel what others can’t, so i no longer blame myself for what i was born with.now i just need some advice on how to control this watery chart
31 · Beth · 30 June 2009
Spiritual leaders and teachers do not have to be famous. There are many teachers and leaders working humbly among the masses without seeking public regognition. They have possibly seen the down side of publicity and what mass-media recognition brings and possibly do not want to expereince this again. Fire signs are visionaries but I am sure there are many other combinations that lead and teach. No one elemental category should fit such a large subject.
32 · natty · 11 August 2009
Hi molly,
I love your blog. Your description of nodes is wonderful and I can really identify with your description of cancerian South node.
Reading this most interesting thing about aboundance of planets in fire I wonder what are the effects of five or more planets in the air signs. I have 2 in Gemini and 4 in Libra and my biggest problem ever is communication. Can you say a word or two about this?
Best regards,
Nat
33 · Molly · 11 August 2009
Hi Nat – having lots of planets in fire signs myself, I can comment pretty confidently on what it’s like. But I have not put so much focus into lots of air. I have worked with several folks with zero planets in air, and I do have an idea what that is about. But lots of air, I haven’t formed a real idea about what that means. Why don’t you tell me more about these problems with communication? What kind of problems?
34 · natty · 11 August 2009
Molly, just any possible trouble with expressing myself that you can possibly think of. I always concentrate on which words to use, how to put them and in the end, I’m usually misunderstood anyway. I don’t like to talk at all and if it was up to me, I would never open my mouth. I always thought it was because of my Gemini Saturn and Mercury – Chiron opposition, but reading your article it crossed my mind that some of it might be due to the abundance of air.
35 · Molly · 11 August 2009
Probably some of both. Typically folks with lots of planets in one element tend not to express that element simply because it is so overwhelming. Being kind of overfocused on how you’re communicating, as you described, sounds like a good fit.
Another idea is to look at elements you may be lacking. Usually a preponderance in one means a deficit in one or two others.
36 · natty · 14 August 2009
Hmm, right, I have no water except South Node and Vertex. Do you suggest this might influence my communication problems?
37 · Molly · 18 August 2009
Natty: www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/four-elements
38 · mike hagan · 6 October 2009
HI I SEE PEOPLE WITH FIVE FIRE SIGNS,HOW MANY DO YOU SEE WITH 9 FIRE SIGNS! I FOUND OUT THAT I HAVE 9 FIRES IN A SOLAR FIRE INTERPRETATIONS REPORT MY FRIEND DID FOR ME!I HAVE BEEN GOING THRU MAJOR EMPATH AND PSYCHIC CHANGES AT THE BEGGING OF MY 29 BIRTHDAY! I NEVER THOUGHT THAT THIS IS REAL UNTIL NOW,I READ NIGHT AND DAY AND I HAVE FOUND A LOT OF ANSWERS FROM ROSE ROSETREE AND THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY! EVERYTHING IT SAYS IS ME TO A TEE, IM VERY NICE AND IF PUSHED VERY VIOLENT! ITS MY DREAM TO FIGHT IN THE UFC DOING MIXED MARTIAL ARTS BUT HAVE A VERY DOWNER FAMILY THAT SAYS IM NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT ANYTHING! WHICH IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH BUT I CANT SEAM TO NOT LISTEN TO THEM! ITS KILLING ME! THIS FIRE INSIDE BURNS LIKE AN INFERNO AND I GOT TO USE IT! ANY HELP OF WORDS WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD!
39 · Sillyrabbit · 30 December 2009
Hi my chart consists of water and fire with barely and air and earth. I have my sun/moon/rising/mercury/pluto/chiron in water signs and venus/mars/jupiter in fire signs (all in leo). The fire burns even stronger because all of these planets are conjunct one another. My friends say I have two sides. One side is really loud and wants to be the center of attention and the other side is quiet/shy and wants to be in the background.
40 · Molly · 31 December 2009
Thank you, Sillyrabbit.
41 · sofia · 4 May 2010
Hi Molly, love your site.. :)
My best friend have sun/mercury/venus/saturn/neptune in Sag and Aries rising. He’s not a typical outgoing, sociable Sag at all! Very introverted, sensitive and philosophical. But he’s still quite fiery in some ways. There’s always something wrong with the world to him, education, healthcare, govt, etc.. He’s quite the psychic too, but perhaps that’s his moon/mars/pluto in water. BTW, I believe he’s an indigo. He’s born on 18/12/1985, 1.29pm, 101E47, 2N59.
About the indigo phenomenon, I don’t believe that there is a set characteristics in the natal chart. Perhaps there’s a few, but in the end, it’s impossible to say that all indigos must have this and that in their chart. All aspects of the chart have to be considered, and there’s still variables that are yet unknown to us. It’s the same as trying to determine that a person is a psychopath or a killer by their birth chart. Quite offending I say.. I’m pretty much against trying to determine indigo-ness by birth chart. If we are wrong, then there’s a lot of pressure on the child to live up to their parents expectations. But if we already knew that a person is an indigo and try to learn something from their chart, then it’s another matter. What’s wrong with having a cheery, friendly, sociable, normal child instead of a know-it-all, smart-mouthed and sometimes strange indigo child? God made us all different so that we could hold on to each other, tapping into each other’s strengths and cover up weaknesses.
Sorry for the long comment. I blame my saturn in Sag and mercury retrograde. LOL!
42 · Melissa · 5 June 2010
Hi Molly!
I have read somewhere (don’t remember where :D ) that according to a karmic point of view, an “excess” of certain element in a chart would mean that one has to learn how to master the qualities of that element and that a “lack” of any element would mean that one had already learned those lessons. Although I think that point of view could be somewhat explained by the planets in air,fire,earth and water houses to counterbalance the chart. Would you agree with any of those points?
I have 6 planets in water and people describe me as dramatic, extroverted, friendly, popular, communicative, competitive, assertive and sometimes aggressive and insensitive. Most of the time I disagree with them. I have only 2 planets in fire, just one in air (also my rising) and one in earth. So I guess my emotional tantrums show up sometimes as the Moon is very strong in my chart but so does some fiery energy, perhaps due to my 5th house Sun/ 9th house Jupiter conjunct MC and so does my airy qualities but my rising is an air sign so I’ll disregard this last one :D
If I count how many planets I have in houses by the element, I’d have: 4 earth, 3 fire, 2 air and 1 water.It seems to balance both my lacking and excessive elements.
Just a thought :D
43 · Quin · 17 June 2010
Hi Molly!
Would this article also work for earth signs?
My Birth Chart:
Sun-Sagittarius
Moon-Capricorn
Ascendant-Gemini
Mercury-Capricorn
Venus-Capricorn
Mars-Capricorn
Jupiter-Aquarius
Saturn-Aries
Uranus-Aquarius
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Sagittarius
N.Node-Virgo
Quite a handful to read…But As you can clearly see…Most of my chart is based on earth signs…6 earth signs…3 fire..and 3 air!! I consider myself more Gemini and Sagittarian like!! So getting to the point…Why am I so fiery when I have a LOT of Earth signs?? Does my Sun and Rising affect this?
44 · Molly · 19 June 2010
Usually when someone thinks they don’t fit their chart, the problem is that they haven’t had a good reading of it. What you think is fiery and what I would describe is fiery may be quite different. It is hard to say anything about it without having your chart in front of me.