The Gospel of Judas
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A documentary about the lost Gospel of Judas was on National Geographic channel Sunday night. I saw a trailer for it on the web, & was really intrigued. But we don’t have cable, so I didn’t get to watch.
Having Uranus in the 12th and a 3d house (ideas) Jupiter square my Sun and Pluto (mass movements & power), I am fascinated by the volcanic power of ideas, especially upheaval thereof that blows the lid off. And I really wanted to get the story.
Did you see it? What did you think?
And how’s this for a Pluto (transformation, upheaval of shadows) in Sagittarius (philosophy, religion, beliefs) moment!?
- 12 April 2006
- Comments (4)


Molly Cliborne Gauthier

1 · Hannah Slattery-Quintanilla · 13 April 2006
Miss Molly Dear,
Yes indeed. It’s comforting to know that religion has its foibles (well honestly it has a LOT of foibles and flaws, but I admit there are some positive things, too).
It’s been sort of a lifelong struggle for me to distinguish between religion and faith or religion and spirituality. Some people claim they’re the same, but I, like you, am just not generally an orthodox kinda gal. I’ve had an all-out religion phobia until only recently, and that has been gradually changing, but I will never belong to an “organized religion” with all its rules and regulations. The ‘institution’ of religion can become very corrupted like anything else.
Still I have friends from various religions or non-religions and I have learned how very much the same we all are. At the same time, you have to stand by your own beliefs, whatever they may be, and that has been especially hard for me…XO and keep on keeping on!
Hannah
2 · Molly · 13 April 2006
Hi Hannah, thanks for commenting.
I don't have anything against religion or religious people, just the idea that everyone who thinks differently needs "saving,� or worse, legislation to fix their morals.
My chart is set up in a way to move on.. in the sense that I don't feel I'm tied to my emotional heritage. I have Aquarius on my 4th house of ancestors, and unlike my cousins who have a very close relationship with their mother and our grandmother, I grew up in another state and still have some distance. Even though I'm close to my mother, she's not emotionally entangled in my life the way theirs is, and the way my grandmother is in my aunt's. That's what I mean, I don't have the same problem releasing myself. Not that I don't care, I just have a different relationship.
You say it has been hard to stand by your beliefs, and I believe you looking at your chart, with your 4th ruler Mars conjunct the Moon and South Node in Pisces, opposite Saturn. That means working through a lot of old karmic attachments in this lifetime, feeling obligated and emotionally tangled up with your family.
Interesting..
Anyway, back to G of J.. I'm not for or against or anything, just want to know the story. I saw a clip on the internet where a former senator working for Fox News blew a gasket because Judas's story did not jibe with his beliefs.
Isn't that some sign of the times, when people fight tooth and nail against ideas that threaten their dogma. I know this has always gone on, but in this day and age where we think of ourselves as so rational and advanced, mainstream public people still act like popes from the dark ages.
Copernicus was the first to come to the conclusion that the Sun, not the Earth, is the center of the Solar System. His books were banned by the Church. In the next century, Galileo was found guilty of heresy and imprisoned for life for publishing proof of this idea and others. In 1998 (early in Pluto's journey through Sag), the Vatican finally admitted it had been wrong about Galileo!
Even now some people still have a problem with him.
3 · María · 20 April 2006
Oh yes, I would have really liked to view the program. I did catch a little bit of a news documentary that explained the document that they (Who? Religious scholars or archeaologists or both?) have given the name the Lost Gospel of Judas. It is a facinating bit of historical record. I think it came from the latter part of the 1st or early part of the second century; but it appears to be maybe not the original. Copies of orginal documents were made to circulate so information could be dispensed. Anyway, there are numerous other writings that provide lots of information about what was going on historically at that time. The early ‘Christian churches’ for the first three or so centuries ‘decided’ which documents were part of the Bible and which were not. Then later, like maybe in the last two hundred years, Protostant faiths decided that there were about 14 books of the Bible that are refered to as the Apocrypha that were not part of the Biblical Canon. Catholics view eleven of these as being part of the Bible Canon. There are several books that explain these ‘lost books of the Bible’ and have additional manuscripts that have important historical information. (Entitled “The Lost Books of the Bible….’)
Yes, I think this is so cool and fasinating that the document has been once again ‘discovered’. I love history and the more sources of info about a particular time period, the more real the picutue becomes.
Some people do feel really threaten if their beliefs are questioned. And of course there are those who have an answer for anything, even if the opposite is right smack dab in front of their nose. Wow, I want to know more about this document. Guess I will have to wait for the article in National Geographic Mag. And for those who are wondering, ya I’ve got a bit of heavy history of religion in my past…but now I’m exploring so many more wonderful, expansive horizons and doing lots of Uranian and Neptuian things.
María
4 · Paolo Mantovani · 31 May 2006
The Gospel of Judas?Is the most important discovery that comes to fill the gap of a document known only for it title (Irineu, Against Heresies 1.31.1).
This document, however, not dumb in absolutely nothing the history of the gospel or the death of Jesus. The sensationalism that if created in lathe of it did not pass of a purely commercial strategy. Few would have if interested if the notice if it related to a spurious text produced by a gonstic group of 2 century, and that it presented a fictitious version on the facts that had lead to the death of Jesus.”