
The planet Saturn enters the sign Leo on July 17, 2005.
Saturn is an outer, slow moving planet which stays an average of 2 1/2 years in each sign of the Zodiac. So this sign change marks a change in the vibe of the times. Saturn will exit Leo and enter Virgo in the fall of 2007.
Since 2003, Saturn has been in Cancer, sign of home, Mother, and security. And boy have we been obsessed with security. The United States is a Cancerian nation, and as Saturn has passed through Cancer the past two years, security has been a major issue, and out have come the biggest crab claws the world has ever seen.
The shift from Cancer to Leo is a major one. Cancer is about mothering, security and nurturing. Leo is about fatherhood, creativity and authority, and ego. As such, people who have planets in Leo crave recognition and respect. Saturn limits or inhibits the principle of the sign he is moving through. This inhibition may show up as problems with self esteem or self respect. Some will shrink away and deprive others the benefit of their creative energies. Others will feel like they have to grab the limelight. These seemingly dissimilar behaviors have a common source—an ego out of balance, a heart kept behind a wall. The big question we all need to be asking on a personal level is, what do I deserve to be recognized for? What am I proud of in my life? Is my inner child happy, truly happy?
The thing with Saturn is, we tend to “should” all over ourselves. Obsessing about what we should look like, what we should be doing, who we should impress, who we should be. And this gets in the way of our responding to our true heart’s desire.
Saturn moves through all 12 signs in 29 years. His last journey through Leo was 1976-1978. If you are old enough, you may remember what those years felt like for you. Were they easy, were they difficult? Of course your circumstances have changed after 29 years, but you are likely to encounter similar energies, similar lessons and choices.
If you’re a Leo native or have planets in Leo in your birth chart, this two year period is a heavy time for you. This is a growth period which requires great self discipline. You work for what you get, and you get what you work for. Saturn brings trials and tests that mature and sober you. The question is, can you get the job done? For some, this will be ambitions and responsibilities in your work or career; for others the work will be about developing self confidence, about trusting and becoming more and more answerable to your heart. In her book Modern Transits, Lois Rodden writes: “The order, sanity, and stability of our lives come from the methodical patience of Saturn, and from its lesson we learn to have the enduring calm that comes from inner strength.” Trust your heart, Leo, for it is the most sensitive part of your body and will literally tell you when something is up.
We are likely to see action around the ideas, industries and commodities that Leo is associated with. Those are gold, entertainment, toys, children and children’s products, fathers and fatherhood, leaders and leadership of all kinds, aristocrats and royalty (should make for some interesting gossip at Windsor Palace), egos and ego-enhancement, as well as the spiritual idea of dissolving the ego into awareness of universal oneness. Leo rules the heart. I expect that there will be even more fascinating research to come along, in the vein of Joseph Chilton Pearce and the HeartMath Institute.
Taurus, Scorpio and Aquarius natives—like your Leo friends, you will have to earn your keep during these two years. Your best strategy is to do what you can to improve your situation, and resist the urge to blame others or make them wrong. Yes, other people may be at fault, but you get nowhere if you focus on them. If others are doing you dirty, perhaps you need better boundaries. The more proactive you are in your life, the more easily the time goes by.
Aries, Sagittarius, Libra and Gemini—Saturn’s passage through Leo brings you opportunities to increase your creative output, take on more responsibility, get more recognition for your work, and build something long-lasting in your world. Remember that success only comes to the degree that you put in the work. The wind is at your back—but if you haven’t hoisted your sails, you won’t get anywhere. Aim high and think long-term.
Cancer and Capricorn—the pressure of the past 3 years eases up as Saturn exits your sign (Cancer) or your opposing sign (Capricorn). The lessons you’ve learned, you get to keep, and if all has gone well, your thinking about yourself and your future has broadened and deepened, and includes a more realistic plan for materially manifesting your dreams. When Saturn enters Virgo in late 2007, it’s likely you’ll have opportunities to take it even further.
Virgo and Pisces—you have this two year period to get ready before Saturn hits your Sun again. One other major planet of change has been active in your chart—depending on the particulars, you either are, have been, or will soon be at the crossroads of change. Honor the energies by tuning in to the feelings of restlessness and exploring the possibility of making a lasting change for the better in your life.


Molly Cliborne

1 · Becky Hayes · 4 July 2005
Excellent! Very deep and comprehensive. The best analysis of Saturn's move into Leo we've read. Thanks, Molly!Becky
2 · Patty · 14 July 2005
Hello Molly,i agree with your writing about Sat.in Leo...actually i am so worried, i have venus in scorp. 1º in VI squaring moon in acuar 1º in X, so i am going to have a grand cross...with Sat. and soon with Mars in Taurus...so....
Things are going to change, i will tell you later what happened..!!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge..
Patty
3 · SUNSTARAA · 18 July 2005
what's a leo to do??? born aug 18, 19634 · Some Guy · 19 July 2005
You might want to mention the coming financial storm facing the United States as Saturn tours the second house.This is the major issue at hand:
The financial solvency of the United States.
5 · Molly · 22 July 2005
I assume you mean the Solar 2nd house as none of the widely used USA charts have Cancer rising.. I don't really see massive economic events coming from Saturn in Leo... Saturn's last visit through Leo was 1976-78. I would expect similar kinds of events. Inflation, high unemployment, falling dollar.Certainly the decisions being made now do not bode well for the USA's financial future, but I don't see major events coming from Saturn in Leo.
Now, last time Uranus was in Aries, and squared the USA's Sun Venus and Jupiter, opposed Saturn, we had the Great Depression. Uranus will transit Aries again 2010-2018.
Molly
6 · Ren · 22 July 2005
Is there particular significance if one's Saturn is in Leo, seeing that Saturn's Return is supposed to be a major milestone? Any info you may offer will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.7 · Molly · 25 July 2005
Hi Ren-- Yes, of course it is significant. Do a google search on Saturn Return and you will find a lot of information. Or check out Liz Greene's book, Saturn: a New Look at an Old Devil.8 · Gena · 25 July 2005
What is to be expected in 2007 when saturn enters virgo9 · KitKat · 27 July 2005
I'm jumping ahead here. There is much concern about asteroids hitting our planet in 2008 and 2012 causing serious destruction opposed to the harmless ones that hit our atmosphere regularly. You mentioned Uranus in Aries as being a troublesome period. What are your thoughts?10 · justesurfin · 27 July 2005
I think Saturn in Leo might feel a whole heck of a lot better than it did in Cancer....only time will tell!Stay Tuned!
Justesurfin
11 · Scarlet · 27 July 2005
Oh gods... Leo here (July 24, 1972) Shoot me now.12 · pc · 7 August 2005
B/date: 10/28/62 -- 2:30pm EST, East Patchogue, NYI have noth node conjunct Mars
5º Leo on cusp of 6th house--- opposing south node conjunct Saturn5º Aquarius on 12 house cusp. I just quit my job of 2 years without a new job lined up- leaving is partly due to not being recognized for my hard work (in publishing-- transiting Pluto moving through my natal 10th house) but I just could not bear another minute of the overwhelming workload in addition to being overlooked. I feel confident about the future anyway because it's a new beginning and I'll be in more control of whatever happens next. Speaking of 1978- it was the first year I could legally drive and I owned a new Mustang II for my first car... and guess what I just bought! I need something reliable to commute but I guess in hindsight there's a great comfort in nostalgia (Pisces rising) when you feel like doing things over right again. I hope I can make these next 2 years my own.13 · Molly · 8 August 2005
Congrats pc.. best of luck as you move forward on your path. Funny but I have heard from a few other people that they just quit their job because it didn't feel right.. one woman was laid off but strangely was not upset by it in the least. Cheers to you for following your heart. Saturn conj. your Node transit should bring some good connections your way, and your positive attitude will put you in a good place to receive them.. a lot better than miss “shoot me now” up there.14 · Liz · 20 August 2005
Great article! In the next year I will be going through my second Saturn return, with Saturn also conjuncting my natal Pluto,Mars and Asc. all the while squaring my Scorpio Sun & Moon. I lost my wonderful husband last year. Any insight.15 · kerry · 1 October 2005
saturn hit me with a mighty punch around august 14th, my birthday. life changes, relationship problems, along with other problems. depressing times. my friend warned me of this but I had no idea it would hit this hard. HELP!!!! will something good come out of all this hardship, hope I survive through itwhen will leos good luck cycle be here. My friend is a scorpio in his good luck cycle and everything wonderful is happening to him. I'm due for things to go my way
16 · Molly · 2 October 2005
Liz-- I tried e-mailing you personally but you didn't leave your e-mail. I'm awfully sorry about your loss. Saturn transiting all those planets at once is very hard. Take small bites if you can, don't think about everything at once, just take it day by day, and keep your priorities straight. Get in touch with me personally if you want to talk about a reading. Maybe I can help you find other coping strategies, and give you an idea how long it will last.Hi Kerry-- Saturn puts you in your place, no question about it. I don't know what you mean by "good luck cycle" but reasons your Scorpio friend may not be feeling Saturn would be, either he has made his bed very well.. thus lying in it is easier.. Saturn is both reward and consequence (although the square tends to be a challenge regardless). Second reason, which sounds more likely, is that your friend's birthday is not in the first ten days of Scorpio. In that case, Saturn has not yet made its way to his Sun. A third possibility is that your friend is going through hell but not letting on. Scorps don't like to show vulnerability. Without the charts, I can only speculate.
In any case, Saturn's lessons bring learning which makes you face reality and moves you forward in life. It's tough now-- but in hindsight, getting your butt kicked sometimes turns out to be a gift.
Best,
Molly
17 · Sheldon · 10 October 2005
Hey there. Kind of new to the whole Saturn return game, I guess because Im just starting to enter my first passing. I just made twenty nine two days ago (dob is 10/08/76) I have read that during that time Saturn was in Leo at 14º. umm... Help... I need some laymans terms. Is there anything in particular I should be looking for or expecting? I have been on a frenzy to find out how saturns return is going to affect me and at every turn it has shown to be some tough roads ahead. Is this correct or am I looking at it all wrong?18 · Louise · 24 October 2005
Hi MollyI have a leo Mars in the 4th, could that mean problems at home or with my home???
Birth -- 11/11/62, Canberra Australia, 4:37pm
Louise
19 · Molly · 24 October 2005
Hi Sheldon,If you have Saturn at 14 Leo, your Saturn return will happen when Saturn reaches 14 Leo again. That will be in 2006.
What happens during your Saturn return depends on what aspects Saturn makes in your birth chart, and how you have handled things up to now. Saturn brings consequences, but also rewards.
There are a couple of discussions on my forum, people sharing stories of their Saturn returns. You may find those helpful.
http://www.nodeorama.com/viewtopic.php?id=1983
http://www.nodeorama.com/viewtopic.php?id=3488
Louise, yes you may experience problems at home when Saturn transits your 4th house Mars.
20 · carole danes · 8 November 2005
Leo Leo I have everything in leo born 1955 at 1.am21 · n ju · 12 November 2005
i hav leo in 8th hose o money is this a good time for that to come to me i hav sat in 2nd house of moneyim sun/cancer last year was the worst year of my life should hav been best year of my life was the worst year of my life,- i got obese- i came east from reloc to west wh i was happy enuff but no came bac to ny and became miserable all over again and w,recked my leg and got stuck in ny cuz of$ now i can fin go bac west but im disabled and not pysched
22 · Lunagurl · 16 November 2005
I enjoyed your take on things. Leo here. Born August 12th 1976. I just want to say.....mostly because i just need to tell someone who may understand that my heart on most days is tight and i have been dealing with anxiety attacks and what not. Im not sure when all this saturn return business started for me but I can recall back to several months ago when things started going wrong. The thing is that they say this is the time for outworn habits to be changed and what not?......but when youve been a certain way all your life it is difficult to “act” any other way. Intuitively I feel like nothing works anymore.....but actually “doing” is really really really difficult for some reason. The funny thing is that I can see clearly that it has nothing to do with anything around me.....its all within myself. What you said about shoulding all over myself..well isn't that the truth. ITS LIKE I CANT STOP!! I have never seen myself in such a way before. This return is really trying every notion I have had of myself. Never the less, I can't seem to find a way to swim with the tide.23 · Molly · 17 November 2005
Lunagurl,Have you read my article on the grand cross that's coming into effect now?
That might help shed some light on what is happening in your world right now. If your Saturn return is happening now, then all these other planets are touching off your Saturn too. And that can make all the structures and “rules” in your life (Saturn) feel a little haywire.
This too shall pass. Meanwhile, take good care of yourself. Maybe have an heart-to-heart with that inner critic of yours that's shoulding all over you. And see what she wants. More than likely she only wants to help you be the best you can be, and she wants to know you're listening.
Get in touch if you want to set up a reading. A new perspective might really help at a time like this.
Molly
24 · Susan · 11 December 2005
My DOB is 12/10/47 w/Saturn in Leo @ 22:38:12 in my first house. (Computer printout) Pluto also sits there at around 14:00.
Should I be scared or what?
25 · Tracey · 28 December 2005
Hi all, I've been doing a lot of research on Saturn and it all seems extremely intersting and “right on.” I do have two questions, however. I will only be 25 yrs. old on 7/23/06, so I'm a bit young for Saturn's return. Does that make a difference, because I have certainly been experiencing all that Saturn brings? Finally, I read that any relationships started at this time will seem “karmic” or “Fated.” I met someone earlier this year (2005) and we started dating and broke up right before Saturn's visit. However, we got back together in September, and things were going really well. Unfortuanately, things have ended again at the beginning of December. I'm not concerned about the relationship ending...in fact, for some reason, I feel like it's not over. I don't know if I'm being stubborn and not letting go, or if my feelings are legitimate. I've done his natal chart, and the planet Saturn was in Leo the day he was born (He's 27 yrs. old). Does that mean anything for me, now?
26 · Molly · 28 December 2005
Hi Tracey--
You do not have to have experienced a Saturn return to experience a Saturn transit.
I don't have enough info to comment on your relationship, but you are correct that things are more difficult when Saturn transits your sign. Karmic, I don't know, but the experiences that come do tend to mature you.
Best of luck,
27 · joy · 31 December 2005
molly,
I have heard all about Saturn's visit in my sign(7-27-1951) and was really worried. It is absolutely true that this visit will make everything more difficult. All
of the normal tasks,exams, finances, plans with family and even employment schedules have all been a challenge. Everything comes late, etc...... But you
know what? With each challenge I have begun to realize that there just isn't much in my world I can't handle if I prepare. I feel stronger, I am calmer, I
don't worry about anything anymore. So true that Saturn is a taskmaster and just as true that it's rewards are amazing. This is my second Saturn. As I recall, the first one turned me into a different person too. Wonder what I'll be like two years from now.
28 · Molly · 31 December 2005
Way to go, Joy! Thanks for sharing your story.
Best,
29 · Gina · 10 January 2006
I have Saturn in Leo in my 11th house conjunct Mars!
I am 27 year old, and ,my boyfriend of one year who is 28 plans on moving away to change his job, and I am not ready to leave, and may not be able to leave if he leaves sooner than later. I am working long hours in a factory job I am very unhappy with, and have always wanted to pursue art, and healing careers. The thing is I think I am about to be laid off, and actually want to be so I will have more time to go to school, and be free to start my plans while on unemployment. I plan on going to massage school, and taking ceramics and interior/graphic design classes. I feel trapped and under pressure, I am scared of being alone, and I worry that I may never have a family or the creative careers I so desire...
It appears that the aspect to saturn I have is very difficult, with the return being revisited three times this year coming up.
30 · Molly · 10 January 2006
Hi Gina--
I don't mean to be flippant when I say it sounds like you're right on track.
It sounds to me like you have made some decisions, and you have my congratulations for that! But you still have some more to make. You're going to massage school, AND you're taking graphic design AND ceramics? Who are you, Wonder Woman?
Someone said that true courage is doing something even though you're scared. So acknowledge the fear, it's unlikely you can make it go away, but you have the option of not allowing it to stop you.
Saturn transits work the best when you cast yourself as the creator, rather than the victim, of your circumstances. Lucky you, you have a chart to guide you through it. And you have 11th house placements-- those are like guardian angels.
Your chart is a fabulous tool-- with it, you can make these decisions, do the work, and come out on the other side more mature and with well earned pride in your achievements. Please don't do what a lot of people do and start moaning and groaning the moment you see Saturn doing something. Saturn sits on all of us from time to time, it's how we respond that counts. It's these times that we find out what we're made of. And that's a tremendous gift.
31 · Priscilla · 29 January 2006
Hi Molly!
Another Leo here (29-07-78).
I too have enjoyed your post on Saturn's transit in Leo.
I believe I may have anticipated the Saturn return as although I have already had a challenging start to life, in the years previous I have had great upheavals for the better and so seem to be taking this in my stride albeit with a little courage.
I too feel the positive affects from this time. Yes, things are rather serious for now and I will most certainly look forward to partying when it is over, in true Leo style, but I am loving the maturing process and really being more sure of things/myself.
Whereas before I tended to work solely from the ego, now I feel a true inner confidence is replacing that.
I also find a true source of strength from communicating with other Leos, especially at this time.
A question though: Why is there a Saturn return automatically at the age of 29yrs? Why not a Neptune return also or Pluto etc.?
Cheers
32 · Molly · 30 January 2006
Hi Priscilla--
A "return" is a planet visiting the place where it was at your birth.
Saturn takes 29.5 years to circle the 12 signs. Other planets move at faster or slower speeds.
The first Mars return, for example, happens at age 2. When the child learns to use the word "no."
33 · Elen · 1 February 2006
My natal Venus is in Leo at 13 degrees in the 9th house. My natal Moon is in Scorpio at 10 degrees in the 12th house which squares my venus. What can I look forward to and when? Thanks!
34 · larryc · 3 February 2006
i'm looking forward to this transit. leo is my 1st house (11-09-55). Tho, when saturn moves to Virgo (my 2nd house) I've heard tell that this is a transit of poverty and extreme loss. any thoughts on that?
35 · Molly · 7 February 2006
Poverty and extreme loss? Where'd you hear that?
Transit Saturn shows us where we need to get serious. So what I tend to see is people getting serious about their finances, sometimes saving for a big purchase (and thus getting by with less) and sometimes it does bring a reduction of income, but as often as not, that is chosen. One person I know, for example, is cutting back on her clients so that she has more time to write a book. The essence of the 2nd house is your values and priorities.. time to get serious, define your values, and structure your life in response to what's most important to you. You reap what you sow, so it's time to make sure you're planting the kind of seeds you want to harvest later on.
36 · julli · 11 February 2006
Im getting married on sept 22 2006 and the time is in question , what aspects and or planets should fall in my 7th house? I am sag with moon in cancer and my spouse is a taurus with moon in virgo we have been together 13 years, Should there be aspects to the 5th and 2nd house?
37 · Molly · 12 February 2006
Hi Julli-- Congratulations! I usually try to get Venus or Jupiter on the MC or 7th house cusp.. keep the baddies off the angles, get them trine or sextile the Asc or MC if you can. Try to get the goodies on the angles, where they are strongest. It's also nice if the 1st and 7th rulers are in a good aspect with each other. Sept 22 is a bit of a touchy day; sometimes you just can't get it perfect, but you can at least go for some of these.
38 · julli · 12 February 2006
WOW Molly that was a fast response. thanks! we have changed the date. Now we are looking into May 2007.. I just don't have enough experience to pick a day/time? fri, sat is good. can you e mail me in private with a few questions i have , I don't need a compatibility help , I need times and houses help , If I submitted birth times could you give me advise or would I have to pay for that. I have already paid for a compatibility chart.
Thanks so much julli39 · Laura · 18 February 2006
I am an aquarius and i have saturn in my relationship house till 2007. It is opposing my sun. My mate has been away from me for a year now. When will this let up a little???
40 · Molly · 20 February 2006
Sorry, but I don’t know, Laura. I would need to look at your chart to comment in any depth. You can click on “Consultations” above for more info.
41 · beth · 20 February 2006
I’ve been reading all the posts and it seems that maybe I am not crazy. I have recently entered my Saturn Return. I am a Capricorn with an Aquarian moon as well as Aquarius rising and have Saturn in Leo in my 7th house and my emotional state is erratic at best. Any advice on the lessons I should be focusing on?
42 · Eme · 23 February 2006
Hi, Molly: I went through my Saturn return and since I’m a Cancer rising, had Saturn in my first house for 2 1/2 years. But I’m a Leo Sun and it squares my natal Saturn. So, I feel like I’ve been walloped by Saturn for the past 7 years. It’s making me feel like everything is a struggle. I’m getting discouraged. Any general advice on working with Saturn without getting down?
43 · Molly · 24 February 2006
Hi Eme—
The big idea around Saturn is, take responsibility. Take control for meeting your needs, achieving your goals, whatever is in your control. And let go of what isn’t. And be good to yourself. Saturnians are remarkably good at getting things done. And you get to pick where to direct that energy.. are you trying to be happy, or are you trying to fit someone else’s idea of success? Or please your parents?
I don’t know what else is going on in your chart, but it sounds like you may be ready to start digging pretty deep here.
44 · Eme · 24 February 2006
Those are key things to think about, Molly. Thanks. I recently started therapy again and it’s going remarkably well. It hurts like hell but it’s going very well. Thanks once again.
45 · Molly · 25 February 2006
Very good Eme, when Saturn wallops you, it’s time to do the really hard work. I bet you’ll figure a lot out and be in a much better place as the years progress! And you are making it happen.. that’s Saturn. Good work.
46 · Ana · 27 February 2006
Hello Molly!
I am a scorpio (sun con uranus) with moon in aquarius, venus con pluto in libra, nept con mars in sagitt. In the second half of the year, Saturn (transit. my 11th house) will affect all of these planets, any advice what i should focus on?
Thanx.
47 · Theolyn Cortens · 12 March 2006
Hello Molly – what an excellent website.
I am an experienced astrologer myself, but would be interested in a comment from you on the following transit:
my natal Pluto (6 Leo) is conjunct North Node (4 Leo) in the 8th house
this conjunction makes a trine to Neptune (2 Libra) on the mid-heaven
and also trines Uranus (6 Gemini) on the descendant.
My rising sign is 4 Sag.
As you are aware Saturn presently transits the Pluto/North Node conjunction and triggers all the aspects mentioned!
if you have time to make a comment I would be interested!
cosmic blessings Theolyn
48 · Molly · 14 March 2006
Hi Theolyn— It all sounds good to me. A planet transiting your node brings connections.. and Saturn kisses are opportunities to create something real and stable in your life. But transit Saturn conjunct Pluto is never easy.. you must take responsibility for the way you use, or don’t use, your power. You must take control of some aspect of your life.
p.s. Leo to Libra is a sextile, not a trine. :)
49 · P · 19 March 2006
Hi Molly,
Saturn return is every 29.5 years right? That just where I am. I have Saturn, Venus and Mercury conjunct with the MC, and have the Sun very near by in the ninth.
I’ve been battling with depression most of my adult life, and am now trying to deal with the roots of it;an alcoholic, abusive father, my mother left him when they were both around 27,
and I was a small baby. His Sun is in the first few degrees of Leo, hers is in ScorpioI’ve had major problems with 10th house and Leo stuff all my life. Confidence, authority, standing, career, money. Instead, shame, powerlessness, feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness. It has been impossible to speak with either parents in an open way until now, and now only my mother, as my father has brain damage from abusing alcohol. So now I’m asking myself what the hell I’ve done with my life and though I’m trying to work towards a goal, a masters degree, depression stemming from the seeds of childhood keeps sabotaging my focus and sapping my energy. I’m sick of this periodic low to high grade depression.
I have the brain for it, but I can’t use it when my emotions are so messed up
Please help,
P
Sun 27 CN 54 20N35
Moon 11 TA 27 15N05
Mercury 3 LE 33 21N05
Venus 6 LE 49 19N48
Mars 8 VI 15 9N24
Jupiter 25 TA 39 18N13
Saturn 5 LE 23 19N24
Uranus 3 SC 4 12S05
Neptune 11 SG 29 20S38
Pluto 9 LI 12 11N46
Node 8 SC 36 14S22
Ascendent 24 LI 37 9S32
Midheaven 2 LE 43
50 · Molly · 20 March 2006
Hi there P,
It sounds like you’re uncovering a lot of pain, and that’s the first step in coming to terms with it. It’s not easy, but it is worth it. I would suggest finding someone to help you through the process, someone who knows what they’re doing. A good therapist is worth a lot, and that’s what I recommend. Not someone just to prescribe medication, but someone to help you come to terms with your history and prepare to move forward.
Good luck—
51 · P · 25 March 2006
Thanks for your mail Molly. I’m seeking out therapy at the moment as well as training in the field (the study is raking up very deep issues, and I don’t know if Saturn return is the chicken or the egg, ).
Though it is very difficult, I’m pretty keyed in to what’s going on psychologically, but I wanted to know how this stuff relates to Saturn. At the very least Astrology seems to be excellent metaphor for the process.
P.
52 · Emily · 26 March 2006
Uh-oh-I have saturn, moon, and
venus in Leo. Most the rest of my
personal planets are in Virgo. This
has been a very intense time for
me. I had a baby and post-partum
depression in the last 7 months.
I have always been fit and healthy,
(and perhaps a bit too much body-
proud) but I mysteriously gained
85 pounds in my pregnancy. I have
lost almost all of this now, but
my self-confidence has taken a
real knock. i also moved to a new
country before giving birth, and
i feel like i don’t know who i am
anymore. I am going to embrace
the lessons of saturn. I have never
been so isolated, with so much
work to do. All work, no play:
but that’s what I’m in this cycle
to learn. I visualize saturn as
a matron in my life called Sterna-
she’s here to keep me productive
and serious.
53 · terri · 26 March 2006
hi molly
i am turning 29 nov. 3 this year and hav leo in my moon, mars, and saturn. i’ve noticed since last yr things haven’t been easy, been feeling quite meloncholy these dys and can’t quie figure out why, any suggestions as i believe a lot of it are subconcious issues.
thank you
t
54 · Ami · 29 March 2006
I’m very happy I stumbled upon your very informative site.:) I was wondering, I am a sun-sign leo, but a good majority of my planets are virgo. (I think I’m also a leo rising as well, but I feel more virgo) My house of money is in Virgo. How would saturn affect me? Does this mean I have to technically be careful for the next 3.5 yrs?! I have so many dreams that I’d like to pull through, but from what I understand, it’s not wise to do so with Saturn in your sign..but then it’ll switch over to virgo as well.. and time is ticking!! but how would this all affect me?
Have a great blessed day!
Thank you so much Molly.
Ami
55 · Tricia · 29 March 2006
Excellent is right. I am glad I found your page! I am an Aquarian and hubby is Taurus and we were both laid off in the fall of 2005 within 3 weeks of one another. It has been harsh but he is in a better place of employment with more $ and I am still searching and “looking for my place” in the world, exactly.
56 · P · 29 March 2006
Seems like we’ve been spamming you Molly, sorry. My all time favourite album has to be dark side of the moon, especially with wizard of Oz!! Seems to describe my life to a T. Also did the wish you were here Bladerunner thing; Bang on.
In this sort of environment am looking for any thread in the labyrinth
I’m with Nietzsche on the question of authority and definitive narrative, but doesn’t mean I’m adverse to constructive hints.
Thanks if I hear back from you or not, either way. x
57 · Tonia · 9 April 2006
Hi Molly,
Ever since Saturn entered Leo everything went wrong in my family.It is still difficult.Our financial situation is so bad that we don’t know what to think.Bad choices, I agree but it feels that we did wrong the whole world and now we have to pay for eveybodies sins.We are going crazy.And you know the results of such a situation.Depression,unhappiness bad mood,insecurity and whatever else you can imagine.On top of everything I’ve been unemployed for a year now.My husband who is a jewel works very hard .He does not deserve this. He was born in August the 2nd 1958 at 13.00 pm and I was born in October the 11th 1955 at 0200 am. Shall we see any light? I would appreciate a comment.
Thank you
Tonia
58 · rhiannon · 10 April 2006
i’m really nervous about saturn in leo squaring off with my venus in scorpio ( my venus is in scorpio at 14 degrees ) i wonder what it’s gonna mean for me
59 · Tonia · 11 April 2006
I cannot read your comment. What do I do?
Tonia
60 · Molly · 12 April 2006
Tonia,
I have not left you a comment.
I'm sorry, but your situation is complex, and I haven't made time to run the charts and look into it. I was thinking about it. Chances are there will be a lot to say about your situation. And my hesitation is this� I'm not sure any brief comment I make will be of much help to you.
Last time I tried to tackle a complex problem with only a little bit of information, I got my butt chewed by the person I was trying to help. She told me I was a terrible astrologer, bad person, etc. I didn't take it personally, but it disturbed me nonetheless. I realized that it was a mistake for me to try to address a complex crisis-level issue here in the comments. In other words, if your house needs renovation, it's not going to do much good to hang a light fixture and call it a day. In fact, it could even be harmful.
If you would like to book a session with me, I can probably help you. I will take lots of time, look into your situation in detail and go over the energies and the timeline with you one-on-one. Details are here.
61 · Molly · 12 April 2006
Rhiannon,
For most folks, Saturn square Venus signals a time when you have to tighten your belt and be more conservative with finances. And a time when any tough issues surface concerning relationships and/or your self-esteem.
62 · carole danes · 13 April 2006
leo 1955 17th August can is Saturn very significant to me Carole Danes
63 · Tonia · 13 April 2006
Hi Molly,
I got your reply which I must say it was not what I expected. Can’t give me a clue? We live in Holland and it will not be possible to have a session with you.I would appreciate a small comment.
Tks
Tonia
64 · Molly · 13 April 2006
Sorry Tonia, but it's not a good idea.
I do offer a sort of "remote� reading where I take your details and questions, and talk on it for an hour. I have worked with clients in Spain, England, Austria, even Singapore and India. I can either mail you a CD of my thoughts, or make an audio file available for you to download.
Otherwise I'd suggest finding someone local to help you.
Best,
65 · Charlly Bedard · 1 May 2006
Hello: Visiting this site this am. Like to share my story of the magificient Lion pushing clear abundant energy
ahead as he charged the hippo. With maine flaying in all his orangey glow he dispelled notion I had of throwing myself into the mud hole. The hippo disappeared. That’s mercury and saturn going over pluto in Leo. I am Tauras. Next my cousin came into my inner view, a Leo, shiningly as he in action of arriving while I was eyeing him with tely in hand…gemini rising – progressed mercury over natal pluto. This despite the other reality of my long relationship with Leo man with mercury on part of catasrophe who was getting out of jail first round as Scorpio woman pressed charges for telephone harassment. It ain’t easy. Sometimes grand though.
66 · Charlly Bedard · 1 May 2006
Actually I have a burning question. When doing a progressed chart do you read it around the natal chart or by itself.
67 · Molly · 1 May 2006
Hi Charlly. I’m not sure I understand your hippo story. Is that a dream?
In answer to your question, I do both. I look at the aspects within the progressed chart, and the aspects from progressed to natal. When I print the progressed chart, it’s nearly always with the natal chart in the center.
68 · Angie · 3 May 2006
This is the best interpretation I’ve read. I feel like I’m back in 76-78 and it’s no fun…it’s got to get better.
69 · Ramona · 16 May 2006
Help! I have my Mercury 3 deg, Jupiter 4 deg, and Sun 12 deg all in Taurus… (May 2 1964 St. Petersburg Fl 10:30 am) I feel stuck in the mud – and I read in Robert Hand that Saturn Squaring Sun can also manifest as a major health crisis… I feel ok so far, low energy – but why do some astrologers put those things out there? I mean, ALL Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio are having difficult transits (or will) not everyone will have health stuff come up…couldn’t it be a more internal process? Any advice?
70 · Molly · 16 May 2006
Ramona,
Of course it can be a more internal process.
I know Robert Hand's work. He does not say a health crisis will certainly befall you when Saturn squares Sun. That would be bad astrology. Like all good astrologers, he explains the energy and lays out the possibilities.
71 · Ramona · 16 May 2006
Thank you for you quick response! This page is wonderful. I didn’t mean to imply that he states that as a given, but I do think it is difficult enough without having things suggested that “might” go wrong with your health too…heart problems, etc. Or, perhaps I’m just feeling a tad paranoid with all the Saturn stuff. ;-)
72 · Molly · 16 May 2006
I hear what you're saying, Ramona. If you want a more inspiring and encouraging interp, you might try another book. Caroline Casey's Making the Gods Work for You has a great chapter on dealing with Saturn.
But Hand's work has its place. My philosophy is, forewarned is forearmed. Especially for people who already have health issues. The Sun in medical astrology represents your vitality, and the heart-- hence the heart reference. Vitality fluctuates, it's a given once you reach a certain age. If you know your vitality will be somewhat weaker at certain times, then you know health problems are more likely to manifest at these times. And you can take precautions: take it easy, lay off the junk foods, don't schedule surgery, etc. It is very helpful info if you look at it that way.
73 · Ramona · 16 May 2006
Molly, That’s a good point – it helps to see it in that light. Focus on the positive rather than obsessing about what negative things can or might happen. Hard to see the ray of good when there’s so much Saturn in life right now… Thank you very much.
74 · Molly · 16 May 2006
No problem Ramona!
I spent a little time expanding on my thoughts, and I also added a suggestion for another book to read in my comment above.. so be sure to go back and re-read my edits.
Blessings,
75 · Charlly Bedard · 17 May 2006
Hi again, I made it back. Yes, it was a dream for lack of ability to distinquish inner events apart from. I get so excited by seeing these things. I get it that Leo is really a magnificent sign although not all leo’s are there in their life stories.It is encouraging for seeing the positive potential of pluto(the hippo) in Leo. Then last night I was walked through the 12th house corridor of scenes of suffering with a man named Flo. Smile everyone, I’m for real.
Charlly
76 · Sharon · 31 May 2006
Hi Molly,
My BOD is 7/28/66 in Chicago 4:36pm. I must have been around 10 years old the last time Saturn came around. All I can remember is having to move which was hard but not as bad as this return. I’ve been feeling the effects of Saturn in Leo. I lost my baby in Nov and my project ended in February for consulting work. I poured myself in my music and pushed hard for more opportunities in performing. Unfortunately, I was turned down for a regular gig with a club who was going to partner with me and my new entertainment company that premiers my band. It’s like everything I try gets denied. I feel so alone like nobody will give me a chance to prove myself or just listen without judging me or my situation. I hate being on a pity track, but feel so downright dead in the water. How many times do I need to be rejected or stay in isolation before I give up completely? It’s going on about 1000 now. Some say there’s one major thing to concentrate on, but how do we know for sure which thing when there are so many options to pursue with no promise of relief? I thought having a baby would be it. It scared the hell out of me, by the time I accepted everything, I lost the baby four months into it. I thought pursuing my musical career would be it because my heart screamed at me “this is what you are meant to do”. Although I still play out and pursue other opps, it’s not enough to make a living. All I have left now is a potential corp job which is pretty boring and hard to get hired. My husband is very understanding but with my lack of income and way things have gone so far, I’m not sure about anything. Wondering if he’ll kick me out next? I feel like if I try anything with what I have left that will go away too… My confidence has suffered and everyone is wondering when I’ll get back on track. Any advice or encouraging signs in my chart?
Thanks
Sharon
77 · Molly · 1 June 2006
Hi Sharon--
I am so sorry for your losses. Wow.. not only has Saturn been transiting your Sun for a while, Pluto is transiting your Sagittarius Moon. This symbolizes one of the most powerful "storms" that can occur in your life, and it means your life is changing, and you are changing at a very deep level. I have heard Pluto transits described as "surgery without anesthesia." And that's a lot to bear. You have not only the pain of your present situation, but pain from the past, from emotional wounds you sustained in early childhood.
The storm has two remaining "peaks," one in about two weeks (consider it in full swing right now), and another in November.
So all this is going on.. and it's re-forming and re-shaping you and your world. So I'm asking you to shift your focus from outward (how am I going to build a successful career?) to inward (how am I going to deal with and survive this pain?).
It's not that success is not forthcoming. I do think you are meant to perform, and you'll be increasingly recognized over the next several years. But at the moment, you need to gather your strength. It's about staying in your calm center. Focus on you, your health and your process. Stay in the eye of the hurricane.
You have your natal Saturn in Pisces, the sign of "serve or suffer," and tied up with Chiron, the wounded healer. And the idea is, you are dealing with some serious wounds here. But you can salve your own wound by helping others. I think your music would be a fantastic outlet for that. If you can't get the gigs you want, try playing in hospitals or nursing homes. Anything to connect you with others, because nothing feels better at a time like this than another person who truly understands. As you give the gift, you'll receive it too.
Elsa did a good piece on this recently. It's worth checking out. She is also going through a Pluto Moon transit.
78 · Sharon · 1 June 2006
Molly,
Thanks so much for your knowledge. Your insight to my pain is remarkable seeing that I didn’t share it all with you.
I know the path I choose doesn’t guarantee success and being a musician is very hard work with little reward. It’s the joy in making others happy and have them think with my music and words. I wrote a song called “Mr. Sun” which was for a benefit show for brain cancer. The song is beautiful, but it makes everyone cry. It’s about hope, strength to carry on, helping others, and accepting death. The funny thing is I don’t feel like me anymore, I feel others pain so much it blocks mine out. I starting to get writters block too. I saw my doctor and he is getting me meds for depression, but I’m not sure if I should take them because each pain is writting material. If I’m all drugged out on pills I may not be able to process the pain the way it’s meant to be handled. I have done volunteer work before, and had fund raising gigs for cures, and polictical rallys for democrats. I also do tarot reading for free on Astroabby site aka Bridgett Walthers. I will do some more pro bono work at the hospitals and nursing homes. You are right on about how giving your gift works. Now how can I change the world for the better? Not too tall an order… but somehow I think my music will.
My husband asked me to stop with the astrology, he feels I’m becoming obsessed with it. I think it’s really helping me understand why things happen the way they do. In a few weeks his folks are coming for a visit. The first words out of their mouth will be “do you have a job?”, “why do you have this dog”? You shouldn’t have a dog if you don’t have a job. what? I’m usually very honest, but now I feel like I should make something up to get them off my back.
I have been home alone for about three months now. For the last two months I’ve been working on my solo acoustic act, but after that rejection I put it down for a week. My band buddie just got us a gig at the Columbia Yacht Club! Yippie! Sometimes I think I shouldn’t be happy or get excitied or that gig will somehow go badly.
I read your friend Elsa’s log. She definitely says it from the heart—good for her!
Thanks again for your help. I appreciate your time.
Sharon
79 · Marge Telakowski · 3 June 2006
Born 8-2-1919 AM need help Please
80 · Terri · 3 June 2006
Hi Molly:
I have been following the Saturn travesty. My husband is Leo with Taurus rising and Aries his moon. I am Aquarian with Rising in Libra and Moon in Pisces. It has been a very difficult time with only baby step improvements. My Scorpion daughter left last June to go live with her dad, a Taurus. My marriage has been on a roller coaster ride. I keep finding things that have been hidden from me by my husband, prescription meds he hasn’t mention and just today an emergency room visit for his heart. I want to sit down and talk with him and see if he will open back up to our relationship, however, everything I read says it could only make things worse. And yet, all of the forecasts for this period (Saturn) have been quite on target. How does one survive for the next 15 months of this continuing cycle? Any insight or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
81 · Molly · 5 June 2006
Hi Terri—
I’m really sorry about your troubles.
You have so much going on that I understand wanting to use astrology to navigate your situation right now.
Saturn tends to test the strength of any relationship or situation, bringing up the weak spots. I imagine they have been there a while, you were just more able to overlook them before.
Saturn also tends to bring pessimism, and this is what you need to watch out for. If your problem is lack of connection with your husband, it’s hard to imagine how talking with him could hurt things.
What I could help you with is mapping out your internal landscape right now and puzzling out how best to approach him. I can’t do this without your full charts. And I can’t do it here in the comments; it would not serve either of us.
I hope you’ll consider contacting me or another astrologer for a consultation.
82 · Anna · 6 June 2006
I know that when Pluto is in a sign it stays for awhile and effects a generation. I have Pluto in Leo and Saturn will be hitting it soon which scares me, its in the 4th house conjunct Jupiter. How will this effect me? My sun is 11 degrees Leo and I have been going through alot this year. What else can I expect?
Thanks for any information and help,
Anna
83 · Charlly Bedard · 8 June 2006
Anna – I will be out of my saturn over pluto in leo in two more days. Mercury was also on pluto and is past now but saturn is hitting it too. The biggest thing for me was fatique. It was bad and worrisome as I am recovering from cancer 5 yrs ago. Sometimes a block was too much, couldn’t get off the floor. Family members situations changed and heart needed.Just don’t overdo which Molly says is South Node stuff. Pace yourself and say NO. Mine was retrograde too so much longer, yours should zim past now. Mine cusp fourth house, had my fill of 3rd house communication thrills, now it’s all about moves and homes and grandchildren. Changes around me with buildings, park renovations, updating in the community and a desire to have a fear free home.
Pluto is clearing the decks. Bringing things old to light.
Breathing space. Good luck.
84 · Anna Brewer · 9 June 2006
Charlly, Interesting, I am a Leo 3rd house sun and also Pluto, Mercury, Jupiter in the fourth house. Seems like the same as you. I do underdstand your interpetation. What is south node stuff? Things have been tough and changing for awhile. Does this mean a move? I dont want to move…......
Anna
85 · yaffa ester · 11 June 2006
Dear Molly – yours is one of THE most impresssive astrology sites I’ve come across in a long while. In your esteemed opinion – if I may ask for assistance of you please – could you tell me if my finances will improve shortly. At the moment things are pretty difficult.
07-07-1956
19h16
Vereeniging South Africa
I’m Aquarius rising.
I REALLY would appreciate a bit of guidance as this time is pretty nailbiting to say the least.
Many thanks and congratulations on this wonderful site
Yaffe
86 · Martin · 13 June 2006
Molly..great to review your readings which describe the choice we have to not be a victim..I am in for a great happening by way of Transit Sept. 29 06 when venus conj. venus [7th hse]; saturn conj. my merc-pluto-south node natal conj.[7th hse.] and saturn squares jupiter [3rd hse]from that pluto-merc point…also a wide jupiter opposite jupiter[9th to 3rd hses.] You can see the intresting natal aspects getting charged up..any cheerleading pep talk, concerning this energy would be appreciated..Fine regards Martin
87 · Molly · 21 June 2006
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your question. I answered you over in the blog.
Best,
88 · Elen · 22 June 2006
Hi Molly,
Saturn is going to conjunct my natal Venus (DOB June 19, 1975) pretty soon and I read on Astro.com that I am in for some harse realizations and it will have a strong effect on my relationships with others. I have been having ups and downs with my boyfriend of 5 months. A lot of that had to do with the Eclipes since he’s a Virgo (DOB Sept. 3, 1972). His mother came into town almost a month ago and we haven’t been able to see each other nearly as much as we did before. She may stay as long as another 2 months so I know it’s only going to put more of strain on our relationship. What can I expect from this transit? Will things just get harder and put more distance between us?89 · Guy · 30 June 2006
Just quit my job and moved home :P
90 · Jenni · 4 July 2006
Hi everyone,
Thanks Molly for your wonderful site…....I have just discovered it!
I enjoyed reading the discussions about Saturn. I have been pondering and learning (through experience) about Saturn since I was 15…. have a first house Saturn square a stellium of 6 Leo planets in 11th House. Like Carole (No 62) I was also born 17 Aug 1955.
I’ve been looking forward to the transit of Leo, as ‘76 – ‘78 were really good for me – lots and lots of outer changes but ultimately for the better.
Understanding astrology has enabled me to approach Saturn transits – and life – with realistic (often limited) expectations. If I focus on ‘making it’ in the eyes of the world, I fail. When I genuinely work to ‘know myself’ and am prepared to acknowledge and experience fully both the dark and the light within, the world opens up to me. What I’m most determinedly running from is often the key to what I need to do. (Usually involves exploring strong feelings like shame, anger etc., and challenging projections.) It’s taken me a long time to work all this out!
Cheers,
Jenni
91 · Riley · 5 July 2006
Hi Jenni,
You just described exactly what I feel like I’m going through. Well said!
Its nice to know there are other people out there who might be experiencing the same thing:)
Its a comforting thought:) I don’t know what I would do without astrology, and this website that Molly created has helped bring alot of people together.
take care,
Riley
92 · kellrenn · 27 July 2006
hey molly,
I’ve been reading all over your site on Saturn, and my question is this: Leo is my sixth house, in which, for the next month, Saturn and the Sun are cohabiting:) I don’t quite know how to take this, especially because my natal Saturn is retrograde in the first house, and reading Saturn transits is always tricky and confusing for me. I read someplace that Saturn retrograde in the first house constitutes a “consideration before reading”. Any general advice would be a help while I’m saving up for a consultation:)
I somehow feel it is not a coincidence that I am supposed to have ALL my teeth extracted this month so I can get dentures. So I can speak in public again with confidence. Maybe even go back into teaching.
thanks for your good work!
93 · Molly · 27 July 2006
Saturn in the first is a "consideration before reading" a HORARY chart, not a natal chart. If it shows up in a horary chart, the reader should consider that the chart may be invalid. So if a person happened to be outside the hospital at the moment of your birth, and asked an astrologer to answer a question (will I marry so-and-so? or where are my lost earrings? for example), sorry but the chart does not answer that question. That's the idea. But it has nothing to do with the validity of your birth chart.
Have you gotten a second opinion on your teeth? That's a big decision, and Mercury being retrograde favors you reconsidering things. Maybe there's a less drastic option.
94 · Dave NYC · 27 July 2006
Saturn in Cancer was transiting my 8th & 9th houses
Saturn in Leo is transiting my 9th & 10th houses with one conjunct already Uranus (in Leo). Once Saturn hits that 10th house what should I expect?
95 · g · 27 July 2006
I’m glad I came across your site. I’m a leo with 5 planets in leo in my 9th house and saturn natally in scorpio 12 house. I’m been having many issues esp with work and coworkers, feeling like I need to just run away sometimes and start a new life. Birthday 08/19/55 any suggestions or helpful hints to get through this next year.
96 · goldentiger · 28 July 2006
Hi Molly,
I am worried about Saturn in Leo as when Saturn was in Leo 1976-78, I was being abused sexually and wondering if or how that issue will affect me now. I have Venus and Jupiter in Leo in my 11th house and want to find a significant other this year but have been held back by this sexual issue in the past. Does Saturn in Leo mean I am unlikely to find love or will I have to deal with abuse issues or sexual issues again? I have have natal Saturn in my 7th house. Thanks for helping people. DOB 06- 30/67 EST.
97 · Maya · 28 July 2006
I’ve been reading books like a mad woman to understand astrology. Solar and venus returns, transits, and natal nodes are still greek to me. It’s like the soil is too dry and the water can’t sink in. I’ve been looking at a book and called to get a reading. $150 and 1 hour later I have NO idea what is happening. The only thing I get is that our housing boom was because of sat. in cancer, that I have moon op pluto and I’m on some kind of meat hook astrologically and the best thing to do is surrender.
I’m feeling really fantastic and excited like something wonderful is going to happen – like I’ve been running a marathon for years and I’m about to cross the finish line and win the lottery. Is there anything you can see in a minute of looking at my chart?
8/28/69, 10:06 am Culver City, CA.
Sun Vir 05Vi12’ 11th
Moon Pis 22Pi25’ 5th
Mer Lib 01Li42’ 12th
Ven Can 29Ca31’ 10th
Mars Sag 16Sg42’ 2nd
Jup Lib 07Li32’ 12tj
Sat Tau 08Ta54R 7th
Ur Lib 02Li34’12th
Nep Sco 26Sco04’ 2nd
Plu Vir 24Vi11’ 11th
MidH Can 23Ca01’ 10th
Asc Li 20Li53’ 12th
Mer, Ur and Jup conj in Lib
Many thanks, much appreciation and lots of goodwill,
Maya
98 · lara · 30 July 2006
I have three planets in Leo (sun,moon and venus)
DOB is 7/25/68. This by far has been one of the most challenging years to date. My professional, personal and home life seem to have crumbled before me. Pursuits which initially show promise seem to fail shortly thereafter. The best way to describe Saturns affect on me is like a series of doors I try to push open and the doors just seem to swing back and hit me in the face. I feel dejected and defeated and would love to know when this insanity will end. I truly feel for my fellow Leos enduring this difficult time.
99 · Molly · 31 July 2006
Lara,
Saturn will enter Virgo in fall of 2007.
Meanwhile, you can think of it as lifting weights. Things are heavy now, and it’s making you stronger. When the weight is taken away, you’ll see how strong you have become.
The good news is, Saturn has passed your Leo planets as of this month. Meanwhile, it’s quite possible something else is going on in your chart.
100 · Molly · 31 July 2006
Maya,
It sounds like you didn't get a very good reading. I'm sorry you spent so much money.
I hope it doesn't turn you off of astrologers, because a good astrologer should be able to explain what's happening in a way you can relate to.
I'm sorry to disappoint, but I wouldn't be doing either of us any favors if I tried to get into your chart here in the pubic comments. If you'd like to talk about booking a reading with me, I'll be happy to work with you.
101 · Rachna · 31 July 2006
Molly hello
what do i expect from life now , born on 25th july 1960 at 10.28 pm lucknow india. no settlement as yet in personal life as i am still unmarried . have not been able to buy a residence also for myself . work is good but not as much as i want.
despertion is there time to time and feel low also but have survival instinct . still feel life has not been very fair to me .
i wish you answer
102 · Maya · 31 July 2006
Thanks Molly!
I think it was a Mercury thing (ours didn’t match).
You and Lance are positive about how to USE the energy. It’s kind of like how to ride a horse – they can be wild, powerful and dangerous, yet if you handle them everything will be fine nearly all of the time.
Big thanks to you and Lance for the daily gifts. May God watch over you and bless you.
103 · Heidi · 4 August 2006
That was pretty in depth which is why I enjoy this site.( why did it take so long to find it??)
Thx Molly
104 · de · 4 August 2006
I am saying this about the leo sun sign…they can never get theirs lives together because they are too gullible and stupid…..they are always in some kind of upheaval and cannot make money and keep it…..they also use people and are not loyal…..the men like women and sex and talk bad about everybody….I know I was involved with a Leo man and he was mean and self centered and womanizer…..I cannot stand men born in that sign….they are not for real….A Sag.
105 · Ventre Vadasz · 8 August 2006
What if your Saturn’s in Leo, and Leo rules over your 4th House and part of your 5th? (By the way, I am a Libra)
106 · otter · 11 August 2006
Namaste’ Molly,
So i am going into a triple whammy, Saturn transits conjunct to Moon,and Jupiter & Pluto, for 9 months, starting August. I have had significant turmoil and growth the past ten years, and am finally set in a new life, rejoining my kids after a divorce in 97, owning a used bookstore in CA, and being a painter. I am DETERMINED to use all this Saturn conjunct energy to focus my goals and establish myself in my practice as a Certified Tantra Therapist, getting back on my feet financially. I am curious about utilizing Saturn’s powers in a triple transit. I also have 3 conjunct planets in Leo in the 10th house. Moon, Pluto and Jupiter! All squared to Venus in Taurus in the 7th house…(painful, fated, dramatic,w/ power struggles relationships)). I am resigned to being alone for a few more years, (even though i am a Goddess!) i know this is my time to overcome all my Saturn in the 2nd Sag. issues, ie. divorced starving artist, used bookstore owner (money challenged). I grew so much the past few years facing this Saturn task of not fearing lack, but embracing my universal place in the world. (embraced my hippie lifestyle) I am finally making excellent money now, as a Tantra guide. Just wondering about how to use all this Saturn conjunct energy in Leo. I am not going to be afraid!!! Any thoughts would be appreciated.Just found your site, and love it. Your insights are healing and true.
I just learned that we share the Aries sun, Leo moon, Libra rising aspects. You are the first person i have known with this. I am March 22, 1956. And i also have a 15 yr old daughter named Molly!
Blessings, otter
107 · otter · 11 August 2006
ps. Saturn in the 2nd in Sag is also squared to the 10 house planets!!! i have had to overcome alot! Knowing why has been my salvation. I think it’s my Saturn trine the Sun, and Venus trine Mars that has gotten my thru it! And lots and lot’s of prayer!
I am just going to let Saurn do the work to toughen me up some more. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.108 · Melanie · 17 August 2006
Hi Molly,
I’m an Aries (4/14/65), if Saturn retrograde is actually good for Aries right now, why am I having such a hard time finding work? I will say that due to being unemployed, I have been able to get funding for college, but I also need to be working. I’ve been umemployed for over a year!
Thanks for sharing your wonderful knowledge about retrogrades, very enlightening!
109 · scared · 21 August 2006
Molly, Thanks for this great info.
My DOB is Aug 10, 1969 and I was born in Northern india at 4:05 AM. This saturn business is creating lot of problems in my life, especially this year, 2006, close to my birthday. I seriously need help, just to name a few events, realtionship problem, emotional lonlieness, car accident, daughter threw my set of keyes in the sewer gutter, I am so scared that worse is still yet to come, Please help, Email me.
Scared
110 · Rachna · 22 August 2006
Molly
Your last posted advice was on Jul 31, 09:34 AM and after that you have not posted one single advice to any of the troubled souls here . Do come back and see how many people have asked for your thoughts . Your absence has been too long and the wait to feel healed is too long
rachna
111 · Riley · 23 August 2006
Rachna,
In defense of Molly, if these “troubled souls” would like to contact Molly directly and pay for a personal reading then they are free to do so. Molly isn’t required to respond to any of our questions, she does so out of the goodness of her heart. And she should not be made to feel guilty if she does not respond. She does this all for free. We should all be so lucky that she does respond to people’s questions and not charge for it.
Riley
112 · Rachna · 23 August 2006
Riley
“where are you Molly ” is a request , a need to read what she writes for any one. A care is also imbedded in the question as her absence has been too long .
She has goodness , and that goodness amkes troubled source reach out to her.
I did not quiet understand what you ment by”And she should not be made to feel guilty if she does not respond”
113 · Hannah Celeste Slattery-Quintanilla · 24 August 2006
I agree with Riley. Molly responds to the comments voluntarily, it’s not an obligation. If we paid a monthly fee which had her answer questions or if we had one question to ask her a month, say, and that might be different, but this isn’t the case.
Also, as someone who has performed tarot readings for others, it’s true that it’s a healing experience and an energy exchange, but there is also a desperation when people ask, constantly, for help solving their own problems. Only you can solve your problems. We all need support, but there is an appropriate forum to constantly ask questions, and this isn’t necessarily it.
Also, I don’t believe that goodness requires you to fix other people’s problems. That sets you up for codependency. Goodness requires you to behave well, on your ow merits. Yes, Molly cares and is a good person, but that isn’t a good reason to expect her to answer these questions.
Finally, I’ve even seen Molly say in the comments that while she is happy to help, especially via consultation, she is not here to spoonfeed you readings and interpretations in the comments section.
Excuse my Aries bluntness :) I think perhaps if you miss Molly it would be more appropriate to say. Oh, I enjoy seeing Molly on here, I hope to see a post to your blog soon. What you said sounds needy, which is why you’re getting this response!
If I’m feeling needy or need a shoulder, I talk to a trusted friend or relative. I suggest to you all that make comments here to do the same.
Hugs,
Hannah
114 · Molly · 24 August 2006
Thanks Hannah and Riley. And Rachna, I am flattered that you think so highly of my advice.
I have been very busy lately with clients, and we have had a lot of home improvement projects happening. (My office is at home.) For a while it was all I could do to eke out a quiet hour for a client.
I have Mercury opposite Uranus in my natal chart, and that means whenever someone demands that I do something, I always want to do the opposite just because. I am happy to give freely here on my website, and I am honored that you like what I have to say, but I do not like being bossed around just because you feel you need to read my writing.
It would have felt a lot better to me if you had expressed concern rather than embedded it. Molly, are you ok? would have gone over a lot better.
And most importantly, I am not a soother of troubled souls. I am not here to make you feel healed. If that is what you are looking for, go visit the Swami, he’s great. I’m just a chart reader, and I’m here to help people who are ready to help themselves! Otherwise what I say won’t make any difference at all.
115 · Rachna · 25 August 2006
Oh Molly
“It would have felt a lot better to me if you had expressed concern rather than embedded it. Molly, are you ok? would have gone over a lot better.”
I meant the same thing , expressed it the other way . Play of words is what i am proficient at and it did make you come back to us who feel good reading what ever you write to any one. most leos are facing hard times and reading what ever you have written to many of them has given a better a insight to me on my own problems . i understand you are a chart reader but your advices are far above the advices that healers give . it gives a very soothing an sincere feeling and if the reader feels the sincerety then the reader gets attached to you . and all those who have come in defence of you are more attached to you then me because they have known you for a longer time . i appreciate their defending you but Molly all new bees also have a right to get attached to you and be concerend about you. with regards to you fort all these sincere piece of advices . keep visiting the board because a comment from you does help to uplift the soul . and thanks again
116 · SK · 5 September 2006
Hi Molly ,
I’m an Aquarian with Scorpio rising, Moon in Taurus and Jupiter in Leo… hehehe…plenty of Fixed Signs !! And now with the T square and Saturn wedged firmly in my house of partnerships… I feel like I’m a hammer testing facility.. wham wham WHAMMM !
The synchronicity of everything makes my mind boggle , the more I think of it… I met someone online that made me want to give up my commitment phobic self on 17th July 2005 and we finally met exactly 5 months later on 17th Dec 2005… and exactly months later on 17th march 2006, he goes silent on me… In our natal charts , our synastry
and our composite charts all show Venus-Saturn charts….Saturn – he shows his stamp everywhere…. !!!!
Thanks for your article Molly …GREAT food for thought!!! And insanity…. synchronicity… hmmmm….
Take care…
117 · SK · 5 September 2006
Venus-Saturn aspects… not charts..sorry abt that :)
118 · Ashanti Ampim · 4 October 2006
Your rendition of saturn through leo was quite provocative.I was born jan.6th 1976 @ 8:14am in New York! My saturn is in Leo in the 7th house. I have made enhancements to my career like going back to school(law) and the such as well as bringing my desire to earn a living off of my creative expression alot closer to fruition with a tangible portfolio. but I’am not sure of my rising sign some charts say aquarius some say capricron? Could someone clear this up for me….? or are dual chart interpretations normal.
Thanx
motion76@gmail.com
119 · Molly · 5 October 2006
Ashanti, a lot of people get different results from different computer programs. But there is only one true result. The error usually involves a miscalculated time zone. That often happens when you use free software that you download from the web. Why? Because time zones have constantly changed over the years. It takes a lot of programming to keep up with them and keep it accurate. Most freeware programs expect you to do the calculating and enter your results. But unless you have had practice, you may not know how to do it, or you might forget to account for daylight savings time, or any number of possible errors.
The software used at astro.com has a built in atlas and record of time zone changes, and it does all the time zone calculations for you. If you get your chart calculated there, it will give you the correct ascendant. Any charts that give you a different ascendant are not accurate.
120 · Tee · 12 October 2006
With Leo as my sun sign, taurus as my rising, and moon in aquarius I am really feeling this saturn return. My birthday is Aug. 5, 1982. I find it very comforting to be able to come here and see that I am not the only one. I have started a new job about a year ago which is a good thing but everything else seems like it is goiing crazy. I have ended a very close friendship because in past I did not set any boundaries and I could not take anymore of this person. I also seem like I am constantly stuck in some kind of financial rut. My relationship with my boyfriend has gone through some serious ups and downs. I am trying to fix some of my own downfalls because saturn is here to teach a lesson, but man is it taking a toll on me.
Thanks again Molly for this website. It is encouraging
Tee
121 · saturn's daughter · 18 October 2006
hi molly,
i have really been enjoying your site lately. here’s my question: i am a capricorn (virgo rising) currently in the midst of my saturn return. dob is 1/3/76 and i have saturn in 0 degrees of leo in my 11th house.
does this mean that the worst is over??? i mean, since saturn is moving through leo, was the toughest part of this period last year, when saturn first entered leo? or should i expect more torture, lol
also, does the saturn return affect our lives in general, or does it especially impact the sector of our chart where saturn in leo lies? for me, for example, is this return impacting primarily my friendships and relationships with other people, or is it a total makeover?
thanks and keep up the great work!
D
122 · bluesofa · 24 November 2006
Thank you for the article, and the discussion. I’d never really thought about Astrology. Reading your page, and a few others, all the other things like the expansiveness of 2003 with Jupiter in Leo fitted perfectly.
Suddenly everything started going completely wrong, everything in life that’s not so solid is falling apart, no luck whatsoever, resulting in diagnosis of depressive illness. Needed answers, my faith in the church, and in many people around me crumbled, leaving me apathetic, directionless, but with a deep feeling that I have something serious to offer the world. I’m constantly blocked by circumstance, bossed around and stabbed in the back by people with no integrity and honesty.
I feel like I’m in check, and can’t move anyway to get out of this. Can’t see the light at the end of this tunnel.
When I read your page, it made sense, and I can accept that life is going to be a lesson for a year or two, as this time is about feeling stronger, and paring down to what’s solid.
I have many planets in virgo though, so I’m dreading the next five years. Loving my wife and kids is the only thing that makes life worth it.
Thanks for helping me to find some sense and a glimmer of hope!
123 · Helen · 5 December 2006
An open Letter to all my fellow Leos:
Having Saturn hitting my planets in Leo, (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Pluto) and squaring both my Mars and Jupiter, I have never heard such much yelling, witnessed so much teeth grinding and arms waving! And mostly by myself!
All I want to say to my fellow Leos is lighten up. You happened to be born under the best sign of the Zodiac. You can handle this. We are the Kings and Queens of the Zodiac. There are benefits to what you are going through.
I am excited about this Saturn retrograde. Why? It is
the beginning of the end. When Saturn goes direct
in April, I will have a party. At that point, there is
light at the end of tunnel.
When Saturn hit my sun, it gave me the courage to
leave my husband. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. I know when it hits my sun again,
I will reep the fruits of what I have sowed.
To everyone out there, take care,
Your fellow Leo,
Helen
124 · Zeke · 17 January 2007
This is my second Saturn return in Leo, but things started to go down hill when Saturn was in Cancer. Since Saturn ruled Aquarius in the days of Old before Urnanus was discovered, and since I’m both an Aries with Capricorn raising, my rulling planet Saturn fell in Cancer and will continue to fall in Leo.
I made through Cancer and lost everything except loved ones. Now in Leo and still very low.
I will just hang in there until September 2007
125 · Charlly Bedard · 10 February 2007
Well, I’m back huh. Molly in 1976-78 I made a mistake by leaving my son born in 1966 and traveled for a few months in Europe. Now I am babysitting his children one day a week. It isn’t an easy situation and a part of me is saying leave! Partly it’s the vibes and negative effects and partly it’s wanting my own life back. Yet I see or fear that I am repeating the pattern. It just seems to me the kids want their mother not me and say so.Anything you can say??
Thank you.
126 · Molly · 11 February 2007
Hi Charlly—
I’m an astrologer, not a psychic, so without a chart, there isn’t much I can say.
I do feel badly about your situation, especially for the kids. I’m not a therapist, either, but I do know that it takes a lot of work to heal broken families, so if this is a Saturn thing, maybe that’s what it’s about. You can’t take what kids say and do personally. If their mother isn’t there, of course they want her.
127 · Ronnie Lantelle · 13 February 2007
What effect is Saturn having on Leos now that the physical planet is in direct opposition to the Earth—-closer than it will be for 22 more years? I know that Saturn is the nigredo stage of putrefaction in alchemy and this is the beginning of realizing the transformation into lapis. My experiences lately have been extremely dark. There is a great deal of death and sickness all around me (my fiance’s mother was just diagnosed with cancer and her best friend just died of the same, and we found out all of this in a week’s time, starting February 6th). Do you have an opinion on the alchemical effects?
128 · Molly · 13 February 2007
Hi Ronnie—
Sorry, but I don’t know anything about alchemical effects or putrefaction, or transforming into lapis. That’s just not my angle on astrology.
I am really sorry about your losses. :(
129 · Neil Huzinga · 23 February 2007
HI Molly and everyone. I have learned alot from reading the discussion. I have a question and I am asking it quite desperately. I have a natal sun in Leo (5th house) and natal saturn in Virgo (5th house). I feel so much conflict in me now, its driving me crazy – literaly. I feel that the very nature of my personality is contradictory. “Be creative and have fun, but you never will” is the feeling I have. I know there is a lesson to learn here, but I have exhausted myself in my attempt to understand it. Is there any help?
130 · Cathy · 17 March 2007
Dear Ms. Molly,
I am a pisces with a scorpio rising, virgo moon and saturn in leo, which is also in my house of work, or my 10 house or midheaven. So far 2006 was insane, things finally feel like they have calmed down, not completely but enough to deal. I am still wondering what the whole point of it is, because nothing much has changed more like restrictions in terms of my jobs (nothing job wise has changed for me). And my emotions have been absolutely haywire. Please help explain the lesson because I have been doing my part but nothing has changed. I seem to find conflict everywhere I go no matter what it is, a relationship freindship, just not at work. At work I have minimal problems with the exception of trying to find another job that is more rewarding. If leo is in my house of work why do I feel like my emotions and lifestyle are on trail. I just can’t seem to get them right.
131 · Molly · 17 March 2007
Hi Cathy—
It sounds like a professional chart reading would do you good.
There is always something going on astrologically. Uranus in Pisces may be opposing your Moon, or Pluto may be square it. Or Neptune in Aquarius may be opposing your Saturn or square your ascendant. There may be something going on with other planets, as well. These are things I can’t tell without getting into your chart.
Best wishes
132 · TM · 21 March 2007
Hi Molly,
I am a bit confused since according to the Vedic Astrology (from India) the Saturn enters Leo only in the July of 2007 and that at present it is in Cancer for past two years which ends in July 2007.
I know the basics that the Vedic astrology depends on the moon signs while the changes that you mentioned above are based on sun signs. but what I don’t follow is that the planets and their movement through the signs shouldn’t that be the same according to both these systems?
Thanks,
133 · Molly · 21 March 2007
Hi TM—
I answered you over on my blog.
134 · Vassag · 26 March 2007
Dear Molly,
I love the service you render to us all every month with such fantastic monthly readings. Fresh and full of fun!
It motivates me every time I read it.
My question to you, if you have the time and patience, is this:
I have a biodynamic calendar which uses a different system for calculating where the constellations are…
I don’t know the term, but basically the idea is that though I may be born in August, the constellations have progressed enough that Cancer is now in August instead of Leo…Is this making sense? So let’s say we are 26 March 2007-they write Sun in Pisces and Moon in Gemini. But now being born in August 1982, would this mean I am Leo or Cancer?
Could you help clarify this for me?
Take Care!
V
135 · Molly · 27 March 2007
Vassag,
This is an easy one. I’m not familiar with the biodynamic calendar, but it sounds like it uses the sidereal zodiac.
136 · Vassag · 27 March 2007
Thanks for the pointer…My God what a quick response!
Biodynamic farming is an agricultural method that goes beyond organic farming, using solar, lunar and stellar positions as a guiding principle in its practice, as well as potentised (homeopathic) fertiliser which helps guide cosmic forces into the soil. Apparently there is evidence that this kind of farming is healing to the earth, and has even restored depleted soil left behind by commercial farms.
If you care to know more about this, I found a website which seemed really informative:
www.biodynamics.com
Take care,
Vassag
137 · greg · 2 April 2007
Hey there. I am finding this all out a year and a half year in. Indeed, it was the very day Saturn entered Leo (which is also my sun sign, Leo that is) that I was evicted and started a long process of mental & emotional (& social) recovery from…well all my years up to that point. I am thankful for Saturn’s teachings and tests – I think I am just now passing three of three, though of course I can’t be sure (which events are the three tests, I mean). I feel that all of the things I knew I lacked at the outset (July 17) I am now prepared with – namely discipline, love for self as strong as love for others and listening to the desires of my heart. I was wondering if you could tell me a few things about any of these: work prospects from 21 april to 16 may, what the summer looks like broadly speaking and what are the overarching astrological forces for Leo after dear teacher Saturn departs Leo to enter another sign? Last I have a significant & domestic relationship that is an important part of this Saturn-in-Leo teaching and testing, but it won’t last forever. Are there any time-specific things I should look forward too (and I don’t intend on making any rash changes myself)? He’s a gemini, by the way.
138 · Helen · 19 April 2007
Molly,
All I got to say is tomorrow, Saturn goes direct. Yippee! I am breaking out the bubbly!
Peace,
Helen
139 · Molly · 21 April 2007
Greg— sorry, somehow some comments get by me. And I have been a little out of sorts lately. But I want to say, it sounds like you’re getting the best out of Saturn. I would say look at Saturn changing direction (now) and whenever Saturn transits a planet in your chart. There’s unfortunately not much I can offer about the relationship without charts to read. If you want to talk about setting up a personal consultation, feel free to call or send me an e-mail.
Helen— yeah. To me, planets changing from retrograde to direct have a sort of slingshot effect.. there’s a burst of activity. Sometimes it’s a purging of toxic energy. Not pretty. Other times, it’s something more constructive.
What about y’all, what do you have going on? Saturn and Neptune are both square my Venus, and I have been having bizarre experiences with women. I have been more hormonal and emotional lately too. Hard to resist getting drawn into the drama of it.
140 · Helen · 21 April 2007
Molly,
In answer to your question, today (April 21st) has been an out of sorts day for me, one minute I’m up and next I’m down. With Saturn going direct, I feel like I can see the light at the end of tunnel. Not that it has been all bad!
Saturn really started to effect me last October. That is when Saturn in Leo really started to hit my T-Square (Sun in Leo 25 degrees, Pluto, 21 degrees Leo, Jupiter in Taurus, and Mars in Scorpio. At the point that Saturn went RX, it has passed over my Pluto, Mars, and Jupiter, and almost hit my Sun. Then it went back over those three planets again. Now for the third and final time, it is hitting the planets again.
In a few years, I will look at this period in my life as one of great growth. I will have moved to CA and have a new career. My friends will have all changed. I will have a new man in my life.
I have used this time, to really find out what I really valued, and I have really wanted in life. I have even found out my soul’s purpose and ultimate calling.
I have found wonderful sages like yourself. I couldn’t have done it without you!
I had a wise teacher who said years ago, that he would rather be 1 mile going out of hell that 5 miles going into hell.
That is where I am now. Hope this helps!
Peace,
Helen
Birth time: 8/18/1952 10:15 am Port Huron, MI
141 · Molly · 21 April 2007
Wow, Helen. Sun, Moon, Mercury, Pluto and SN in Leo, that’s some lineup! And you had Pluto trine Sun while Saturn conjoined it. The same thing happened to me in 1996. Sun at 05 Aries. I got the smackdown of my life at 24 years old, and looking back, I think it was the best thing that could have happened to me, painful as it was.. the best of times and the worst of times.
You are very kind to say I am wise. I am glad you have found the info here helpful on your journey. Best of luck, and tons of blessings to you in Saturn’s final pass in Leo!
142 · Manish · 23 June 2007
Hi, all, first of all congrates for best wishes,i want to know the impact of saturn on life of cancerian in coming years